Subject	On the 2JZ vs. VG topic...
Posted by	Jackie Chan (Boosted) on June 14, 2002 at 11:44 PM
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In Reply To	'Theorists' platform on VG reliability (long and venting)... posted by B-Ster on June 14, 2002 at 10:04 PM
Message	I've said it before, and I'll say it again; it seems Supra owners put more time/money/effort into their cars than the Z guys do. Maybe it's because they sell for so much more, so they're owners are generally wealthier and more educated (wealthy usually = educated), but head over to the SupraForums and there are 20 96 2+2TT type people there for each Z owner like that we have. For every upgraded turbo Z here, there's 10 single turbo Supras there. Alot more innovative and different things being tried, and like someone said above, they don't just wait for Greddy to come out with something new, alot of them take it into their own hands. That's not to say I'm not guilty of the same thing; anything custom or not tried before makes me nervous. Say what you will about Supra guys being assholes, but from my experience, they know what they're doing. You of course can't generalize a group of people because they own the same car, by no means are they all like this; just seems like there's more of them. Of course not knocking Z owners in any way, just stating what I see. I think it's the Z owners which are reluctant to make big power, and not the Z's.
Follow Ups	'Theorists' platform on VG reliability (long and venting)... - B-Ster 22:04:45 06/14/02 agreed, a lot of the info given by people here - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 22:16:34 06/14/02 Re: agreed, a lot of the info given by people here - nixit(dallas) 22:23:16 06/14/02 Zhound and TTPete have no problems - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 22:35:38 06/14/02 Didn't Zo detonate and blow his first short-block? - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 22:40:12 06/14/02 The Z's fuel system is one of it's weak point - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 22:45:33 06/14/02 Ill clear this up real quick for you all - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:01:46 06/14/02 proper and careful Dyno tuning would have prevented 1 and 2. (n/m) - nixit(dallas) 23:04:23 06/14/02 Both set-up's were tuned - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:06:33 06/14/02 Not the first. - ZHOUND 10:33:33 06/15/02 oops....and i was trying to be accurate - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 12:53:33 06/15/02 well, maybe not #1, those bastard T28s! (n/m) - nixit(dallas) 23:06:51 06/14/02 Thanks. - ZHOUND 09:20:51 06/15/02 That is what I meant, it did not blow because of weakness - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 11:13:17 06/15/02 The GTP(?) cars had a problem with rod bearing failure, BUT - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 22:31:10 06/14/02 Oiling was another problem of the factory Nissan race cars. - nixit(dallas) 22:39:23 06/14/02 Forgot about that, but didn't they goto a dry sump - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 22:41:21 06/14/02 and the windage tray, yes, as I understand it. stock pump 2! (n/m) - nixit(dallas) 22:42:29 06/14/02 Re: Oiling was another problem of the factory Nissan race ca - Dallas DamonZ 10:07:42 06/15/02 Man I wish every post was like this - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 22:48:34 06/14/02 Heh, what are you seeing? - Jack B. 23:22:59 06/14/02 no offense taken, what I meant was - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 23:31:55 06/14/02 Its ok. - ZHOUND 09:11:45 06/15/02 No big power VG Z32's in the US that is - U ZCREAM (Jax,Fl) 23:34:45 06/14/02 here is why the 2JZ is different - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 23:43:56 06/14/02 Absolutely. Read my post below (n/m) - Jackie Chan (Boosted) 23:45:27 06/14/02 Another thing I've noticed about the 2 - U ZCREAM (Jax,Fl) 23:53:00 06/14/02 + a VG @ the same boost as a 2JZ usually makes more power. (n/m) - Jackie Chan (Boosted) 11:13:04 06/15/02 Slightly bigger stock turbos = slightly bigger power (n/m) - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 14:35:43 06/15/02 2JZ=forged pistons=owns VG30 - PERIOD! - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:46:19 06/14/02 to an extent - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 23:53:17 06/14/02 It wont be for long - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 12:56:18 06/15/02 Shawn is easily making 600hp on the bottle - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 15:02:11 06/15/02 I miss the old Jack B. LOL (n/m) - Bobby12many 00:31:23 06/15/02 Hes been too busy for flames =( (n/m) - Jack B. 00:48:43 06/15/02 You find yourself a nice Jackie B.???? (n/m) - Bobby12many 00:54:44 06/15/02 Sorta - Jack B. 02:22:48 06/15/02 already hearing the whip cracking. jack B (yes dear) (n/m) - Carlos Ramirez 04:53:12 06/15/02 my only thoughts on this are; - nixit(dallas) 22:53:33 06/14/02 well said (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 22:57:09 06/14/02 yuuuup! (n/m) - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:03:38 06/14/02 Sunbelt is great I was over by there the other day - Carlos Ramirez 04:56:00 06/15/02 You want high HP cars that have lasted??----> - Kyle(Houston) 06:42:10 06/15/02 Re: You want high HP cars that have lasted??----> - ghoztt 11:17:06 06/15/02 On the 2JZ vs. VG topic... - Jackie Chan (Boosted) 23:44:03 06/14/02 Exactly (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 23:46:00 06/14/02 And not having to pull the motor to change turbo set-up - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:48:14 06/14/02 Definitely, good point - Jackie Chan (Boosted) 11:19:16 06/15/02 I don't know about that though. - Marshall 00:28:37 06/15/02 yup, I have noticed many of the guys on supraforum will pay> - TomGreen 00:59:20 06/15/02 True, but either way, the knowledge is there. - Jackie Chan (Boosted) 11:16:27 06/15/02 I agree with most of what you said... - Marshall 00:14:40 06/15/02 Now this stuff is what I like to read>>> - CowBoy--TT Conversion Underway 00:14:47 06/15/02 Theories are like A-Holes, I trust emprical evidence (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 00:58:40 06/15/02 Here is what I have learned about bearings - Carlos Ramirez 05:32:12 06/15/02 Disagree>> - Dallas DamonZ 10:03:30 06/15/02 I think Carlos meant Supra owners - 96-2+2TT(Power Supply Racing) 10:26:44 06/15/02 Exactly. - ZHOUND 10:37:37 06/15/02 Re: Exactly. - ghoztt 12:41:51 06/15/02 yes that is what I meant.. - Carlos Ramirez 17:58:27 06/15/02 I think it can be done...good luck Bryan (n/m) - wesman [92TT-less ] 09:45:26 06/15/02 Wes, thank you very much; I do appreciate the sentiments. (n/m) - B-Ster 22:51:25 06/15/02 Re: 'Theorists' platform on VG reliability (long and venting - ghoztt 11:54:45 06/15/02 Rich, if you have something to teach me, I am all ears! - B-Ster 21:46:56 06/15/02 whoa now, i dont think rich was insulting you... - Jefe 01:25:18 06/16/02 Re: Rich, if you have something to teach me, I am all ears! - ghoztt 01:25:41 06/16/02 My Beef... - B-Ster 08:25:46 06/16/02 Re: My Beef... - ghoztt 09:40:11 06/16/02 "as the world turns...so do the sands of time " :-) (n/m) - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 12:09:10 06/16/02 Where u @? (n/m) - ghoztt 22:57:54 06/16/02
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